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	<title>Comments on: Aurora School Board Cuts and Fees</title>
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		<title>By: llgem</title>
		<link>http://www.oliveaurora.org/school-news/aurora-school-board-cuts-and-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-6456</link>
		<dc:creator>llgem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record I did not say the levy was defeated because of the smartboards.  I was responding to realist&#039;s comments that he did not feel this was a necessary expenditure and  I wanted to make clear that the school district did not pay for these boards.  Only the people who voted no on the levy can say why they voted no.  Any other opinions are just speculation.   When voters go into the polling place only they know how they vote and why and that is what makes this country great.  My personal opinion is that this school board has been very fiscally responisble with our tax dollars, the money and the space is needed, and our children deserve the best chance we can give them.  The increased tax dollars will require a sacrifice for me as well.  Senior citizens are not the only ones on fixed incomes.  Some people with families work at jobs in which they haven&#039;t gotten a raise in several years.  I just happen to believe that the children of this community are worth some sacrifices I will personally have to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record I did not say the levy was defeated because of the smartboards.  I was responding to realist&#8217;s comments that he did not feel this was a necessary expenditure and  I wanted to make clear that the school district did not pay for these boards.  Only the people who voted no on the levy can say why they voted no.  Any other opinions are just speculation.   When voters go into the polling place only they know how they vote and why and that is what makes this country great.  My personal opinion is that this school board has been very fiscally responisble with our tax dollars, the money and the space is needed, and our children deserve the best chance we can give them.  The increased tax dollars will require a sacrifice for me as well.  Senior citizens are not the only ones on fixed incomes.  Some people with families work at jobs in which they haven&#8217;t gotten a raise in several years.  I just happen to believe that the children of this community are worth some sacrifices I will personally have to make.</p>
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		<title>By: uffdacyd</title>
		<link>http://www.oliveaurora.org/school-news/aurora-school-board-cuts-and-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-6404</link>
		<dc:creator>uffdacyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Observer brings up a very interesting observation - demographics plays a huge role in the success of our district.  Look at the number of parents that are actively volunteering in the schools and supporting the various booster and PTO organizations.  There are outstanding teaches and administrators in our district but their jobs are much easier than those faced by their peers in the Cleveland Public School District.  Money helps make their jobs easier as does the support students receive from their families.  

And in response to llgem&#039;s comments that the levy went down because of the expenditures on things like smart boards - I beg to disagree.  The levy went down because of the economic conditions that are plaguing this area.  Northeastern Ohio is suffering and I fear it isn&#039;t going to get better for quite some time.  The levy went down big in the Geauga Lake area where i&quot;m sure the increase in taxes would create hardship for many.  There were also many seniors on a fixed income that voted against the levy as well. The nightly news brings about talk of recession.  People have only so much money available to them.  Health care costs are escalating, as are utilities, gas and food.  I think most voters in this district would support the operating levy but the board insisted that they tie the building in, too.  I heard the board was concerned that the voters would vote for the building but not the operating if they put two levies on the ballot.  I think they have not given the voters the credit they should have.  Voters would have supported in the very least the operating levy but they aren&#039;t going to get that chance.  I fear it was a huge mistake on their part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Observer brings up a very interesting observation &#8211; demographics plays a huge role in the success of our district.  Look at the number of parents that are actively volunteering in the schools and supporting the various booster and PTO organizations.  There are outstanding teaches and administrators in our district but their jobs are much easier than those faced by their peers in the Cleveland Public School District.  Money helps make their jobs easier as does the support students receive from their families.  </p>
<p>And in response to llgem&#8217;s comments that the levy went down because of the expenditures on things like smart boards &#8211; I beg to disagree.  The levy went down because of the economic conditions that are plaguing this area.  Northeastern Ohio is suffering and I fear it isn&#8217;t going to get better for quite some time.  The levy went down big in the Geauga Lake area where i&#8221;m sure the increase in taxes would create hardship for many.  There were also many seniors on a fixed income that voted against the levy as well. The nightly news brings about talk of recession.  People have only so much money available to them.  Health care costs are escalating, as are utilities, gas and food.  I think most voters in this district would support the operating levy but the board insisted that they tie the building in, too.  I heard the board was concerned that the voters would vote for the building but not the operating if they put two levies on the ballot.  I think they have not given the voters the credit they should have.  Voters would have supported in the very least the operating levy but they aren&#8217;t going to get that chance.  I fear it was a huge mistake on their part.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Taxpayer:

Very interesting results indeed.  One of the things I have wondered about as I have read this blog since the levy&#039;s defeat is, when measuring the success of the children in the school district (whether we measure by blue ribbons, gold medals, SAT / ACT, AP, IB, and other standardized measures) is how much of it has to do with the effectiveness of the schools, and how much of it comes down to pure demographics (household income, education levels of the parents, single parent vs. 2 parent households, etc).  To use an extreme case, if we were to transplant this administration and the teachers to a less successful district, what would the results be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Taxpayer:</p>
<p>Very interesting results indeed.  One of the things I have wondered about as I have read this blog since the levy&#8217;s defeat is, when measuring the success of the children in the school district (whether we measure by blue ribbons, gold medals, SAT / ACT, AP, IB, and other standardized measures) is how much of it has to do with the effectiveness of the schools, and how much of it comes down to pure demographics (household income, education levels of the parents, single parent vs. 2 parent households, etc).  To use an extreme case, if we were to transplant this administration and the teachers to a less successful district, what would the results be?</p>
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		<title>By: llgem</title>
		<link>http://www.oliveaurora.org/school-news/aurora-school-board-cuts-and-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-6302</link>
		<dc:creator>llgem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The smart boards were purchased through PTO by funds that were raised through fund raisers such as Market Day and Spiritwear.  PTO members get a say in how money is spent if they come to meetings and voice their opinions.  This is not taxpayer money that paid for this equipment.  That is the reason PTO has fundraisers, to be able to provide &quot;nice to have technology&quot; that the school  may not be able to afford.  In today&#039;s economy it is to our detriment if we do not equip our students with skills that include technology which would explain the CAD investment.  With all due respect the world is a different place from when we parents were in school.  We may have survived without CAD, but computers were just on the horizon.  We live in a computer world and our kids will be ill-prepared compared to graduating seniors in other districts if we do not keep up with the times.  I am tired of people using a few thousant dollar expenditures as reasons for not passing the levy, when we are talking about the need for 800,000 dollars plus being cut from the budget.  Don&#039;t you value your children and grandchildren enough to make an investment in their future.? What the board is asking for is not out of line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The smart boards were purchased through PTO by funds that were raised through fund raisers such as Market Day and Spiritwear.  PTO members get a say in how money is spent if they come to meetings and voice their opinions.  This is not taxpayer money that paid for this equipment.  That is the reason PTO has fundraisers, to be able to provide &#8220;nice to have technology&#8221; that the school  may not be able to afford.  In today&#8217;s economy it is to our detriment if we do not equip our students with skills that include technology which would explain the CAD investment.  With all due respect the world is a different place from when we parents were in school.  We may have survived without CAD, but computers were just on the horizon.  We live in a computer world and our kids will be ill-prepared compared to graduating seniors in other districts if we do not keep up with the times.  I am tired of people using a few thousant dollar expenditures as reasons for not passing the levy, when we are talking about the need for 800,000 dollars plus being cut from the budget.  Don&#8217;t you value your children and grandchildren enough to make an investment in their future.? What the board is asking for is not out of line.</p>
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		<title>By: taxpayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>taxpayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting results published in the Plain Dealer this morning!!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1197625409112340.xml&amp;coll=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hereÂ &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting results published in the Plain Dealer this morning!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1197625409112340.xml&#038;coll=2" rel="nofollow">hereÂ </a></p>
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		<title>By: Realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does the school continue to buy $2,000 SmartBoards for classrooms at the same time cuts are targeting our students? Is there data to support the idea that SmartBoard-equipped classrooms result in a better education for my child? I&#039;ve also heard that we offer Computer Aided Drafting (CAD) classes to our students at a cost of $3,000 per CAD-equipped computer. Does CAD enhance my child&#039;s education enough to justify that cost? All of us parents seemed to survive without SmartBoards and CAD in school. 

Technology is great. However, in my house we spend our money on nice-to-have technology when we can afford it. Not when things are tight. I&#039;ve mentioned two examples of questionable priorities that have recently come to my attention. I&#039;m concerned there are many more. 

Olive: I really appreciate this site and read it often. Thank you for your hard work. Some of your &quot;Olive Pits&quot; comments may mistakingly give the impression that you are editing posts because the ideas expressed are inconsistent with your own. While that is your prerogative, please consider the value of an open exchange of ideas. Strong ideas stand up fine against opposition. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does the school continue to buy $2,000 SmartBoards for classrooms at the same time cuts are targeting our students? Is there data to support the idea that SmartBoard-equipped classrooms result in a better education for my child? I&#8217;ve also heard that we offer Computer Aided Drafting (CAD) classes to our students at a cost of $3,000 per CAD-equipped computer. Does CAD enhance my child&#8217;s education enough to justify that cost? All of us parents seemed to survive without SmartBoards and CAD in school. </p>
<p>Technology is great. However, in my house we spend our money on nice-to-have technology when we can afford it. Not when things are tight. I&#8217;ve mentioned two examples of questionable priorities that have recently come to my attention. I&#8217;m concerned there are many more. </p>
<p>Olive: I really appreciate this site and read it often. Thank you for your hard work. Some of your &#8220;Olive Pits&#8221; comments may mistakingly give the impression that you are editing posts because the ideas expressed are inconsistent with your own. While that is your prerogative, please consider the value of an open exchange of ideas. Strong ideas stand up fine against opposition. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Olive, what happened?  You posted my comment (it was the 9th comment on this subject) and now it&#039;s gone.  What&#039;s up?

Olive pits: i don&#039;t know, i have been having server &quot;issues&quot; and have instated a new comment policy. It may have been deleted on purpose or lost accidentally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Olive, what happened?  You posted my comment (it was the 9th comment on this subject) and now it&#8217;s gone.  What&#8217;s up?</p>
<p>Olive pits: i don&#8217;t know, i have been having server &#8220;issues&#8221; and have instated a new comment policy. It may have been deleted on purpose or lost accidentally.</p>
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		<title>By: olive</title>
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		<dc:creator>olive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Board and Superintendent Invite the Community to Public Hearing

The Aurora Board of Education and Superintendent invite the community to share its feedback and concerns regarding the levy failure, recent cuts, and the districtâ€™s plans to move forward. The Community Meeting will take place on Wednesday, December 5 at Aurora High School in the auditorium. The meeting will begin at 7 p.m.

The Board scheduled the meeting Saturday at its special Board Meeting. â€œThere is a sense of urgency to have this meeting as soon as possible to hear the voice of the community. The Board does not have much time to consider feedback on this issue as the Ohio Department of Education requires us to decide on the particulars of filing to go on the ballot by December 15,â€ said Board President Jerry Kohanski. The meeting date was also chosen to be December 5, because all other days early this month had holiday concerts or other school events scheduled.

The Superintendent, Russ Bennett, and Board Members will also make themselves available following holiday concerts this month in room 100 at the high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Board and Superintendent Invite the Community to Public Hearing</p>
<p>The Aurora Board of Education and Superintendent invite the community to share its feedback and concerns regarding the levy failure, recent cuts, and the districtâ€™s plans to move forward. The Community Meeting will take place on Wednesday, December 5 at Aurora High School in the auditorium. The meeting will begin at 7 p.m.</p>
<p>The Board scheduled the meeting Saturday at its special Board Meeting. â€œThere is a sense of urgency to have this meeting as soon as possible to hear the voice of the community. The Board does not have much time to consider feedback on this issue as the Ohio Department of Education requires us to decide on the particulars of filing to go on the ballot by December 15,â€ said Board President Jerry Kohanski. The meeting date was also chosen to be December 5, because all other days early this month had holiday concerts or other school events scheduled.</p>
<p>The Superintendent, Russ Bennett, and Board Members will also make themselves available following holiday concerts this month in room 100 at the high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Auora mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auora mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is anyone mad that Farewell to Harmon has been cut?
How much money does that cost?  Not much, a litle for the electric bill and what else??  This is a kids program that has been going on forever............is there any parents out there that want to see it happen this one more year??
Parent volunteers, we could do it.  My 8th grade son has been looking forward to playing with his band for 2 years now.  So sad, really.

Olive notes: If you want the answers to your questions from the Board go to the meeting on Wednesday. I believe the budget was over $2,000 for the Farewell. Contact the board with your concerns they are willing to listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone mad that Farewell to Harmon has been cut?<br />
How much money does that cost?  Not much, a litle for the electric bill and what else??  This is a kids program that has been going on forever&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;is there any parents out there that want to see it happen this one more year??<br />
Parent volunteers, we could do it.  My 8th grade son has been looking forward to playing with his band for 2 years now.  So sad, really.</p>
<p>Olive notes: If you want the answers to your questions from the Board go to the meeting on Wednesday. I believe the budget was over $2,000 for the Farewell. Contact the board with your concerns they are willing to listen.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should we be looking at Olive for School Board information or the schools webpage?
olive pits back:  You should always use the school webpage for your primary source of information. This site does not have any advance notice of any school announcements. This is a small town and news can travel fast. I think the school website is run quite differently than Olive. The school has procedures in place for administrators to post. Sometimes there are software problems sometimes staff are doing other things. it&#039;s not like someone is sitting at the monitor all day long waiting to post or reply at either place. All Board Members are members of the community and have jobs often in other cities away from Aurora. I also have a job sometimes i can post sometimes my work comes first, this site does not make me any money. This is not an official posting site for public meetings nor any other legal notices. I will however be helpful in trying to inform people in Aurora. And Olive will always use journalistic standards and practices in place for reputable blogs.
In addition you can always call the board of education for information or to meet with someone in person. They will always make time to talk they are not hiding nor have they hidden from Olive. They have always responded either by phone or in person to me.  They will do the same for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should we be looking at Olive for School Board information or the schools webpage?<br />
olive pits back:  You should always use the school webpage for your primary source of information. This site does not have any advance notice of any school announcements. This is a small town and news can travel fast. I think the school website is run quite differently than Olive. The school has procedures in place for administrators to post. Sometimes there are software problems sometimes staff are doing other things. it&#8217;s not like someone is sitting at the monitor all day long waiting to post or reply at either place. All Board Members are members of the community and have jobs often in other cities away from Aurora. I also have a job sometimes i can post sometimes my work comes first, this site does not make me any money. This is not an official posting site for public meetings nor any other legal notices. I will however be helpful in trying to inform people in Aurora. And Olive will always use journalistic standards and practices in place for reputable blogs.<br />
In addition you can always call the board of education for information or to meet with someone in person. They will always make time to talk they are not hiding nor have they hidden from Olive. They have always responded either by phone or in person to me.  They will do the same for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a &lt;strong&gt;Perfect World&lt;/strong&gt; our school levy would pass with a thunderous majority vote and all would be right for our students.  But in the real world, we are ALL dealing with higher gas and utility cost, unsure job security, and a slow housing market.  Why are we penalizing the students with only offering an â€œall or nothingâ€ proposal?
Why donâ€™t we offer two options, #1 current operations and additional staff, repair of current structures, and trailers?  #2 new additions on three schools and the operation of those additions.  I know itâ€™s not pretty, but I think the voters would pass #1 without hesitation.  We understand thereâ€™s a real need, but this is not the economic time to fill a new construction wish list.
Was this â€œall or nothingâ€ a case of planning too late or was it a part of the plan?
I feel the Board did not act in the best interest of the students to only offer the taxpayers an â€œall or nothing planâ€ at the last minute.  The voters have already spoken once and thereâ€™s no guarantee the second time around with the exact same proposal that it will pass.  Offer a Plan B and do not take the chance that this 6-mill levy may fail again.
As many others have discussed, we need clear information, which can be offered through televised school board meetings.

Olive pits back: I have edited this post in light of the announcement of a public meeting. If the writer has comments or questions for the board he/she should attend the public meeting on Dec 5 at 7 in the high school. Televised board meetings will be very boring, and after the board has taken action is no time to complain. Go to meetings if you want to be in the know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a <strong>Perfect World</strong> our school levy would pass with a thunderous majority vote and all would be right for our students.  But in the real world, we are ALL dealing with higher gas and utility cost, unsure job security, and a slow housing market.  Why are we penalizing the students with only offering an â€œall or nothingâ€ proposal?<br />
Why donâ€™t we offer two options, #1 current operations and additional staff, repair of current structures, and trailers?  #2 new additions on three schools and the operation of those additions.  I know itâ€™s not pretty, but I think the voters would pass #1 without hesitation.  We understand thereâ€™s a real need, but this is not the economic time to fill a new construction wish list.<br />
Was this â€œall or nothingâ€ a case of planning too late or was it a part of the plan?<br />
I feel the Board did not act in the best interest of the students to only offer the taxpayers an â€œall or nothing planâ€ at the last minute.  The voters have already spoken once and thereâ€™s no guarantee the second time around with the exact same proposal that it will pass.  Offer a Plan B and do not take the chance that this 6-mill levy may fail again.<br />
As many others have discussed, we need clear information, which can be offered through televised school board meetings.</p>
<p>Olive pits back: I have edited this post in light of the announcement of a public meeting. If the writer has comments or questions for the board he/she should attend the public meeting on Dec 5 at 7 in the high school. Televised board meetings will be very boring, and after the board has taken action is no time to complain. Go to meetings if you want to be in the know.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yellow journalists would have a field day,&quot;School Board endorses drinking and driving&quot;, &quot;School Board says to heck with the Environment&quot; in view of the recent elimination of the SADD and environmental clubs. So much for social conscience.  Seriously, though, parents at Harmon and Leighton are unhappy that those students took the brunt of the initial cuts versus the high school. Especially in light of the fact that the 2007-8 year is already budgeted for and that athletics weren&#039;t touched.  This is the wrong way to go about trying to prove that you are financially responsible. The district better be careful because they are starting to alienate their biggest supporters...

Olive pits back: if you have questions about the reasons for the cuts call Russ Bennett he will take the time to talk with you, or come to the public meeting on Dec 1. The Board will be there to get your feedback and answer questions. I attend several of the cuts meetings and i think i would be forced to do the same cuts if I was in their shoes. There are good reasons for their actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yellow journalists would have a field day,&#8221;School Board endorses drinking and driving&#8221;, &#8220;School Board says to heck with the Environment&#8221; in view of the recent elimination of the SADD and environmental clubs. So much for social conscience.  Seriously, though, parents at Harmon and Leighton are unhappy that those students took the brunt of the initial cuts versus the high school. Especially in light of the fact that the 2007-8 year is already budgeted for and that athletics weren&#8217;t touched.  This is the wrong way to go about trying to prove that you are financially responsible. The district better be careful because they are starting to alienate their biggest supporters&#8230;</p>
<p>Olive pits back: if you have questions about the reasons for the cuts call Russ Bennett he will take the time to talk with you, or come to the public meeting on Dec 1. The Board will be there to get your feedback and answer questions. I attend several of the cuts meetings and i think i would be forced to do the same cuts if I was in their shoes. There are good reasons for their actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Realist</title>
		<link>http://www.oliveaurora.org/school-news/aurora-school-board-cuts-and-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-6028</link>
		<dc:creator>Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Silence Dogood and Concerned Dad. I completely agree with your opinions. I wish you would write to the Advocate. Your views need  to be shared more widely than this forum.

I can&#039;t help but feel that the board is trying to manipulate us into voting for the levy. I felt more supportive before I saw the cuts letter. It seemed like they implemented a plan designed to anger our kids: scrap clubs, walk farther to bus stops, pay for games. These aren&#039;t real cuts. However, they are the cuts that will cause kids to lobby for the March levy. It&#039;s no wonder these board discussions were not public. The public would have little tolerance for such tactics.

Based on the cuts letter, the board has much more work to do to convince me that they will be good stewards over more revenue.

Olive pits back: If you have comment or question for the Board go to the meeting on Wednesday, they will explain and answer questions. The discussions were public, you just didn&#039;t go to the meetings or get informed. They aren&#039;t tactics, they are reality-based financial decisions. if you need to be convinced go to the meeting and stand up and voice your concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Silence Dogood and Concerned Dad. I completely agree with your opinions. I wish you would write to the Advocate. Your views need  to be shared more widely than this forum.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but feel that the board is trying to manipulate us into voting for the levy. I felt more supportive before I saw the cuts letter. It seemed like they implemented a plan designed to anger our kids: scrap clubs, walk farther to bus stops, pay for games. These aren&#8217;t real cuts. However, they are the cuts that will cause kids to lobby for the March levy. It&#8217;s no wonder these board discussions were not public. The public would have little tolerance for such tactics.</p>
<p>Based on the cuts letter, the board has much more work to do to convince me that they will be good stewards over more revenue.</p>
<p>Olive pits back: If you have comment or question for the Board go to the meeting on Wednesday, they will explain and answer questions. The discussions were public, you just didn&#8217;t go to the meetings or get informed. They aren&#8217;t tactics, they are reality-based financial decisions. if you need to be convinced go to the meeting and stand up and voice your concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: taxpayer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliveaurora.org/school-news/aurora-school-board-cuts-and-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-6011</link>
		<dc:creator>taxpayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the school should consider consolidating 7th &amp; 8th grade sports into &quot;jr high&quot; teams.  Or look at eliminating 7th grade sports entirely and pushing the rec department to extend the ages for soccer/basketball etc to absorb the 7th graders (if they&#039;re not already there).  

My children are on the sports teams and I am not opposed to paying to play.  I think it is sad to drop the ax on all the clubs and not give parents an opportunity to pay to participate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the school should consider consolidating 7th &amp; 8th grade sports into &#8220;jr high&#8221; teams.  Or look at eliminating 7th grade sports entirely and pushing the rec department to extend the ages for soccer/basketball etc to absorb the 7th graders (if they&#8217;re not already there).  </p>
<p>My children are on the sports teams and I am not opposed to paying to play.  I think it is sad to drop the ax on all the clubs and not give parents an opportunity to pay to participate.</p>
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		<title>By: Silence Dogood</title>
		<link>http://www.oliveaurora.org/school-news/aurora-school-board-cuts-and-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-6005</link>
		<dc:creator>Silence Dogood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Olive,

This is democracy in action. This is the way it was intended to function and if citizens want to offer positive comments and support, without prompting, they will. However, not all positive comments and support come wrapped up as Pollyannaish fawning â€“ some come as constructive criticism that needs attention, and it appears this site has become the opportunity for citizens to do more than just spew forth â€œpetty bitches;â€ this is an opportunity to air their concerns and complaints in an open forum that some believe does not exist in a school board meeting. All too frequently citizen comments have been squelched by the board in general, and the board president in particular who has used his bully pulpit to silence public dissent. 

Yet we should rejoice â€“ it seems that Olive has begun to have an effect as witnessed by the fact that the board is now publishing the agenda on the school Website. Previously, citizens wanting to review the agenda had to request a copy in person at the board office â€“ let me restate that for emphasis, PREVIOUSLY, CITIZENS WANTING TO REVIEW THE AGENDA HAD TO REQUEST A COPY IN PERSON AT THE BOARD OFFICE. All too frequently those wanting agenda copies where questioned as to why they wanted a copy.

However, Olive does raise one issue â€“ why donâ€™t more citizens attend school board meetings. Iâ€™m certain we can find a number of reasons behind the question, not least of which is a lack of interest. But anyone willing to ask around will find a myriad of other reasons that exist as well. There have been too many reports from past attendees who have: 1) been asked why they are still attendance after the opening public comments (after all it is a public meeting); 2) public comments dismissed by board members using the old, â€œYou donâ€™t know the whole story lineâ€ (or similar like statements) or; 3) the lack of a publicly published agenda for citizens to scrutinize and see if they have a reason or a need to attend.

One problem has found a solution: the Web publishing of the board agenda. Another solution: videotaping and airing the meetings could increase interest in board proceedings.

But letâ€™s move beyond the board, the agenda, and the proceedings and take a look at what is being said here: mainly that some citizens want a more transparent process and want to let their opinions be known in advance of the decisions. They are asking tough questions and those questions deserve answers. The decisions may have been made early on but they appear to be decisions made in a vacuum. A school district is responsible first and foremost to the education of the students. I believe it says a lot when the board is willing to hire on new assistant coaches, athletic trainers and so on while cutting into clubs and after-school activities that truly appear to have more academic value.

One parent, Concerned Dad, points out that the approved cuts were selected just to get the parents attention. This is a trick that has been utilized by many school districts â€“ make the cuts where it hurts the students the most so parents will pass the next levy. Oddly enough this trick is more effective when athletic programs are cut, not academic. In truth it seems as if the approved cuts are more of a half-hearted attempt at looking like something is being done than a serious effort at separating the wheat from the chaff.

Finally, Olive, while it is true that we, the citizens, donâ€™t directly run the school, we do indirectly through the process of representative democracy â€“ we vote in the school board members and they are to represent our best interests, nay, the best interests of all the citizens in this community. It behooves the school board members to be more responsive to the citizens, and to find more ways to elicit citizen response, then they have in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Olive,</p>
<p>This is democracy in action. This is the way it was intended to function and if citizens want to offer positive comments and support, without prompting, they will. However, not all positive comments and support come wrapped up as Pollyannaish fawning â€“ some come as constructive criticism that needs attention, and it appears this site has become the opportunity for citizens to do more than just spew forth â€œpetty bitches;â€ this is an opportunity to air their concerns and complaints in an open forum that some believe does not exist in a school board meeting. All too frequently citizen comments have been squelched by the board in general, and the board president in particular who has used his bully pulpit to silence public dissent. </p>
<p>Yet we should rejoice â€“ it seems that Olive has begun to have an effect as witnessed by the fact that the board is now publishing the agenda on the school Website. Previously, citizens wanting to review the agenda had to request a copy in person at the board office â€“ let me restate that for emphasis, PREVIOUSLY, CITIZENS WANTING TO REVIEW THE AGENDA HAD TO REQUEST A COPY IN PERSON AT THE BOARD OFFICE. All too frequently those wanting agenda copies where questioned as to why they wanted a copy.</p>
<p>However, Olive does raise one issue â€“ why donâ€™t more citizens attend school board meetings. Iâ€™m certain we can find a number of reasons behind the question, not least of which is a lack of interest. But anyone willing to ask around will find a myriad of other reasons that exist as well. There have been too many reports from past attendees who have: 1) been asked why they are still attendance after the opening public comments (after all it is a public meeting); 2) public comments dismissed by board members using the old, â€œYou donâ€™t know the whole story lineâ€ (or similar like statements) or; 3) the lack of a publicly published agenda for citizens to scrutinize and see if they have a reason or a need to attend.</p>
<p>One problem has found a solution: the Web publishing of the board agenda. Another solution: videotaping and airing the meetings could increase interest in board proceedings.</p>
<p>But letâ€™s move beyond the board, the agenda, and the proceedings and take a look at what is being said here: mainly that some citizens want a more transparent process and want to let their opinions be known in advance of the decisions. They are asking tough questions and those questions deserve answers. The decisions may have been made early on but they appear to be decisions made in a vacuum. A school district is responsible first and foremost to the education of the students. I believe it says a lot when the board is willing to hire on new assistant coaches, athletic trainers and so on while cutting into clubs and after-school activities that truly appear to have more academic value.</p>
<p>One parent, Concerned Dad, points out that the approved cuts were selected just to get the parents attention. This is a trick that has been utilized by many school districts â€“ make the cuts where it hurts the students the most so parents will pass the next levy. Oddly enough this trick is more effective when athletic programs are cut, not academic. In truth it seems as if the approved cuts are more of a half-hearted attempt at looking like something is being done than a serious effort at separating the wheat from the chaff.</p>
<p>Finally, Olive, while it is true that we, the citizens, donâ€™t directly run the school, we do indirectly through the process of representative democracy â€“ we vote in the school board members and they are to represent our best interests, nay, the best interests of all the citizens in this community. It behooves the school board members to be more responsive to the citizens, and to find more ways to elicit citizen response, then they have in the past.</p>
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